I couldn’t appreciate your disingenuous and lopsided review of the sub Reddit. Your premise that we’re all in it together as one that is immediately abandoned by the nominees themselves and deftly chronicled by the posters who do an excellent job of summarizing their horrible racist sexist misogynistic bigoted history of Facebook posting.
Your hyperbolic reach to make this about eugenics is ridiculous. They make fun of the victims because they thought they were healthy enough to not need a vaccine. You present it like they were singled out for deaths because of their physical characteristics.
You’re an idiot on the level that they are. Except I suspect that they are more ignorant, and you like the purveyors of Covid disinformation, are doing it for your own fame and profit. Shame on you.
A lot of people in this here comment section seem to believe that people with shitty beliefs deserve to die for it I guess.
Okay.
That's not going to stop the people who actively profit off those shit beliefs, who inculcate the vaccine hesitancy and distrust of medicine to hock bogus cures or vitamin supplements. Nor will it break up the tech companies that shoved this propaganda at people during an emotionally vulnerable time to take advantage of their attention for their own obscene profits.
These dead grandparents aren't the source of the problem. Aim higher.
I am a severely disabled person living in Europe. I have stayed home since the pandemic started except for vaccine and other necessary appointments. It's a scary shit show.
While it is not quite as bad (yet) as in the States, we see a lot of the same things happening. Fewer, shorter lockdowns are one example. Seemingly not caring about exhausted healthcare or workers in general are another. Politicians abdicating responsibility and fully bowing to business owners and doing everything in their power to keep things up and running, dying people be damned.
The careless disregard of vulnerable life, of life that is deemed lesser-than, is disturbing. If you can't be productive for the capital owners, you are not worth keeping alive. It's always been this way under capitalism, this time around we are seeing it more explicitly.
We are under no obligation to mourn or grieve for people that have essentially signed their own death warrant. What the comments you cite point out about all of the awardees and nominees is a flagrant disregard for public safety. No one is chastising these people for being obese or having diabetes. What the posters are highlighting is that IF YOU HAVE HIGH RISK FACTORS FOR COVID and refused a free vaccine, it's your fault if you die of Covid. We're pointing out that you shouldn't go begging people for medical expenses because you were too ignorant to get yourself health insurance or protect yourself. These people deserve no sympathy, and no, we're not sorry their bigotry and ignorance is no longer in the world.
This gave me a real “Are we the baddies” moment. I was disgusted with Walensky but I too lurk on Herman Cain and privately revel in their self obliteration. Thanks for making me connect the two..
It's not because they are fat that we ridicule them. It's just shows some are extra stupid that despite multiple comorbidities they still spread anti-vax nonsense and get themselves and others killed and destroy families. I feel no remorse for people so deliberately stupid they post such hateful, racist, misogynistic, homophobic narcissistic bull crap, fat or not.
We also don't really hate goatees, ballcaps, Harleys, big trucks and guns, but when that combo together with Trump is the only thing that gives their lives meaning, I see nothing to feel bad about when they leave us. They are an infection of our society as dangerous as Covid.
I really enjoyed your piece and while I am only a very occasional viewer of r/HCA I appreciated your calling out the way the posters seem to take glee in the obesity and poverty of the "nominees". It looks like the comments on your post only demonstrate just how accurate your description of otherwise progressive and liberal posters as vile eugenicists actually is. I don't usually venture into the comments section, and I honestly regret having done it here.
Keep up the wonderful writing! I enjoy all your posts and am a faithful follower on Twitter. I'm cheering for you!
"You cannot solve a pandemic ....by getting a jab" maybe not, but it would certainly help keep our hospital systems from collapsing. Perhaps you would see more value in getting vaccinated if someone you cared about had a heart attack or stroke right now. No ICU beds means no ICU beds for anyone. It's astonishing that everyone is to blame except the unvaccinated themselves.
You mean the same people who screamed Communist at us for wanting universal healthcare are now dying broke AF because of their multiple bad choices? Well color me shocked.
You miss the point on HCA members pointing out HCA recipients being uninsured. It's not to criticize people's poverty. Far from it. Its purpose is in highlighting the irony (and tragedy) of the awardee's support of a political party that has fought tooth and nail against single payer universal healthcare.
While I'm definitely not a fan of just going "oh hey look at that fatass" because that could imply fat people deserve to die, I still don't really feel bad for really anybody catalogued in this subreddit.
Why?
I live in a very red city in a red state. There's a local coffee shop I go to every once in a while in the morning or afternoon. This is a coffee shop run by liberal and lefty zoomers, however the clientele is often the very people you see catalogued here in this subreddit. Their conversations over coffee consist of only one subject every time I show up:
They want to kill me. They want to kill me because I didn't vote for Trump. They want to kill *everyone* who did not vote for Trump. Sure, they also want to kill everyone who has ever worn a mask during the pandemic, anyone who has taken the vaccine, but most importantly if you did not vote for Trump, if you at any point said anything mean about him, they want to kill you. They want to shoot you in broad daylight, they want your execution broadcasted on national television. That's all they talk about. And they're very loud and open about it, too. Just casual conversation about how they're going to shove all the libtards in the back of a truck, drive them to the center of town, put them up against the wall and ventilate our heads.
They no longer see any of us as Americans, or even as human beings anymore. I'm not a radical leftist by any means, but because I don't suck Trump's dick 24/7, that means I deserve to be tied up, blindfolded, and have my head blown off when "the storm" comes.
You cannot reach out to these people. You cannot reason with them. Given the chance, they would just straight up fucking gun you down and they'd laugh gleefully while they did. They think you're a pedophile baby eating communist.
Honestly, I'd love to see the reaction they had to you, somebody who is not only openly socialist but Jewish as well, telling them that we're "all in this together". Do you really think they're going to react well to somebody saying that they're in any way similar to you? No. They'd be fucking infuriated because contrary to your sheltered yuppie socialist beliefs, these people are not one conversation away from becoming comrades in the proletariat. They don't care about class. They don't care about the fact that they're poor and they have more in common with impoverished minorities than rich whites.
They hate minorities more than they love themselves, and they will never, EVER be your friend, no matter how much you try to reach out to them.
So no. I don't feel bad for somebody who would shoot me in the head the minute the opportunity presented itself. I refuse. I'm tired of it. Fuck these people. Let them die.
"You cannot solve a pandemic by ... getting a jab"
I am sure you are shooting for Plato but what I read here is Play-Doh. It may not solve a Pandemic on it's own but if it keeps the vast majority of infected from the Hospital it's doing it's job and the "Fredos" of society should take note. In the words of the immortal author that wrote Trump's finest T-Shirts, "F*ck Your Feelings".
Mocked because they MAKE me watch them die. They are killing others.. a fat fuck with a gun kills your mom, or a fat fuck anti vaxxer kills your mom..? You still focusing on the "fat fuck" part? Says a lot about your perspective, its not about YOU, its about other people. Its about their utter contempt for anyone telling them ANYTHING. As a fellow liberal, let me ask, what will it take for you to fight? What would it take for you to actually realize the end of democracy is nigh, and these fuckers are dying to usher it in? Believe me, it'll be a bunch of fat fucks with CPAPs and shitty Russian ammo in their AR-15s that come to hang you & me.
Its not a daily jog and a jab -- get fucked. Its absolutely part of it. Knowing what the danger is, is mitigating your chances of dying from it, 100%.
At least include what makes Herman's death so 'comical' please. He continued tweeting after his death about how covid is no big deal...despite dying from covid.
The single through line of the Herman Cain Awards, SorryAntiVaxxer, and their ilk, is not mockery of the poor, the overweight, the undereducated, or the ill. It is shaming the first, second and third tier spreaders of disinformation. That they frequently hold hateful beliefs, is a bonus for shaming them.
I will grant you that the mockery of obese middle aged people in the HCA community is in poor taste. It is limited in it's spread, and perhaps you are more sensitive to it so you notice it more.
People in the quiverfull movement, who have large broods of children, clearly have the financial means to obtain health or life insurance. That they opt to have more children rather than provide for the children they have should their circumstances change is irresponsible. Similarly, refusing vaccination while having children and not having some provision for your death is highly irresponsible.
This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. However, none of the HCA nominees and recipients are folks who lack access to vaccines. They are not mocked for comorbidities alone. They are not folks who cannot take the vaccine due to existing health issues. Or people who would get the vaccine if they could only afford the time off work. They are not even quiet antivaxxers. They are loud and proud, anti-vaccine, anti-mask, anti-government, anti-establishment, anti-lockdown, anti-distancing, advocates AND victims.
I couldn’t appreciate your disingenuous and lopsided review of the sub Reddit. Your premise that we’re all in it together as one that is immediately abandoned by the nominees themselves and deftly chronicled by the posters who do an excellent job of summarizing their horrible racist sexist misogynistic bigoted history of Facebook posting.
Your hyperbolic reach to make this about eugenics is ridiculous. They make fun of the victims because they thought they were healthy enough to not need a vaccine. You present it like they were singled out for deaths because of their physical characteristics.
You’re an idiot on the level that they are. Except I suspect that they are more ignorant, and you like the purveyors of Covid disinformation, are doing it for your own fame and profit. Shame on you.
A lot of people in this here comment section seem to believe that people with shitty beliefs deserve to die for it I guess.
Okay.
That's not going to stop the people who actively profit off those shit beliefs, who inculcate the vaccine hesitancy and distrust of medicine to hock bogus cures or vitamin supplements. Nor will it break up the tech companies that shoved this propaganda at people during an emotionally vulnerable time to take advantage of their attention for their own obscene profits.
These dead grandparents aren't the source of the problem. Aim higher.
I am a severely disabled person living in Europe. I have stayed home since the pandemic started except for vaccine and other necessary appointments. It's a scary shit show.
While it is not quite as bad (yet) as in the States, we see a lot of the same things happening. Fewer, shorter lockdowns are one example. Seemingly not caring about exhausted healthcare or workers in general are another. Politicians abdicating responsibility and fully bowing to business owners and doing everything in their power to keep things up and running, dying people be damned.
The careless disregard of vulnerable life, of life that is deemed lesser-than, is disturbing. If you can't be productive for the capital owners, you are not worth keeping alive. It's always been this way under capitalism, this time around we are seeing it more explicitly.
We are under no obligation to mourn or grieve for people that have essentially signed their own death warrant. What the comments you cite point out about all of the awardees and nominees is a flagrant disregard for public safety. No one is chastising these people for being obese or having diabetes. What the posters are highlighting is that IF YOU HAVE HIGH RISK FACTORS FOR COVID and refused a free vaccine, it's your fault if you die of Covid. We're pointing out that you shouldn't go begging people for medical expenses because you were too ignorant to get yourself health insurance or protect yourself. These people deserve no sympathy, and no, we're not sorry their bigotry and ignorance is no longer in the world.
This gave me a real “Are we the baddies” moment. I was disgusted with Walensky but I too lurk on Herman Cain and privately revel in their self obliteration. Thanks for making me connect the two..
It's not because they are fat that we ridicule them. It's just shows some are extra stupid that despite multiple comorbidities they still spread anti-vax nonsense and get themselves and others killed and destroy families. I feel no remorse for people so deliberately stupid they post such hateful, racist, misogynistic, homophobic narcissistic bull crap, fat or not.
We also don't really hate goatees, ballcaps, Harleys, big trucks and guns, but when that combo together with Trump is the only thing that gives their lives meaning, I see nothing to feel bad about when they leave us. They are an infection of our society as dangerous as Covid.
I really enjoyed your piece and while I am only a very occasional viewer of r/HCA I appreciated your calling out the way the posters seem to take glee in the obesity and poverty of the "nominees". It looks like the comments on your post only demonstrate just how accurate your description of otherwise progressive and liberal posters as vile eugenicists actually is. I don't usually venture into the comments section, and I honestly regret having done it here.
Keep up the wonderful writing! I enjoy all your posts and am a faithful follower on Twitter. I'm cheering for you!
"You cannot solve a pandemic ....by getting a jab" maybe not, but it would certainly help keep our hospital systems from collapsing. Perhaps you would see more value in getting vaccinated if someone you cared about had a heart attack or stroke right now. No ICU beds means no ICU beds for anyone. It's astonishing that everyone is to blame except the unvaccinated themselves.
"You cannot solve a pandemic by getting a jab?" How have the other ones been resolved!?
You mean the same people who screamed Communist at us for wanting universal healthcare are now dying broke AF because of their multiple bad choices? Well color me shocked.
You miss the point on HCA members pointing out HCA recipients being uninsured. It's not to criticize people's poverty. Far from it. Its purpose is in highlighting the irony (and tragedy) of the awardee's support of a political party that has fought tooth and nail against single payer universal healthcare.
While I'm definitely not a fan of just going "oh hey look at that fatass" because that could imply fat people deserve to die, I still don't really feel bad for really anybody catalogued in this subreddit.
Why?
I live in a very red city in a red state. There's a local coffee shop I go to every once in a while in the morning or afternoon. This is a coffee shop run by liberal and lefty zoomers, however the clientele is often the very people you see catalogued here in this subreddit. Their conversations over coffee consist of only one subject every time I show up:
They want to kill me. They want to kill me because I didn't vote for Trump. They want to kill *everyone* who did not vote for Trump. Sure, they also want to kill everyone who has ever worn a mask during the pandemic, anyone who has taken the vaccine, but most importantly if you did not vote for Trump, if you at any point said anything mean about him, they want to kill you. They want to shoot you in broad daylight, they want your execution broadcasted on national television. That's all they talk about. And they're very loud and open about it, too. Just casual conversation about how they're going to shove all the libtards in the back of a truck, drive them to the center of town, put them up against the wall and ventilate our heads.
They no longer see any of us as Americans, or even as human beings anymore. I'm not a radical leftist by any means, but because I don't suck Trump's dick 24/7, that means I deserve to be tied up, blindfolded, and have my head blown off when "the storm" comes.
You cannot reach out to these people. You cannot reason with them. Given the chance, they would just straight up fucking gun you down and they'd laugh gleefully while they did. They think you're a pedophile baby eating communist.
Honestly, I'd love to see the reaction they had to you, somebody who is not only openly socialist but Jewish as well, telling them that we're "all in this together". Do you really think they're going to react well to somebody saying that they're in any way similar to you? No. They'd be fucking infuriated because contrary to your sheltered yuppie socialist beliefs, these people are not one conversation away from becoming comrades in the proletariat. They don't care about class. They don't care about the fact that they're poor and they have more in common with impoverished minorities than rich whites.
They hate minorities more than they love themselves, and they will never, EVER be your friend, no matter how much you try to reach out to them.
So no. I don't feel bad for somebody who would shoot me in the head the minute the opportunity presented itself. I refuse. I'm tired of it. Fuck these people. Let them die.
The awesome-est take of the article:
"You cannot solve a pandemic by ... getting a jab"
I am sure you are shooting for Plato but what I read here is Play-Doh. It may not solve a Pandemic on it's own but if it keeps the vast majority of infected from the Hospital it's doing it's job and the "Fredos" of society should take note. In the words of the immortal author that wrote Trump's finest T-Shirts, "F*ck Your Feelings".
Mocked because they MAKE me watch them die. They are killing others.. a fat fuck with a gun kills your mom, or a fat fuck anti vaxxer kills your mom..? You still focusing on the "fat fuck" part? Says a lot about your perspective, its not about YOU, its about other people. Its about their utter contempt for anyone telling them ANYTHING. As a fellow liberal, let me ask, what will it take for you to fight? What would it take for you to actually realize the end of democracy is nigh, and these fuckers are dying to usher it in? Believe me, it'll be a bunch of fat fucks with CPAPs and shitty Russian ammo in their AR-15s that come to hang you & me.
Its not a daily jog and a jab -- get fucked. Its absolutely part of it. Knowing what the danger is, is mitigating your chances of dying from it, 100%.
At least include what makes Herman's death so 'comical' please. He continued tweeting after his death about how covid is no big deal...despite dying from covid.
The single through line of the Herman Cain Awards, SorryAntiVaxxer, and their ilk, is not mockery of the poor, the overweight, the undereducated, or the ill. It is shaming the first, second and third tier spreaders of disinformation. That they frequently hold hateful beliefs, is a bonus for shaming them.
I will grant you that the mockery of obese middle aged people in the HCA community is in poor taste. It is limited in it's spread, and perhaps you are more sensitive to it so you notice it more.
People in the quiverfull movement, who have large broods of children, clearly have the financial means to obtain health or life insurance. That they opt to have more children rather than provide for the children they have should their circumstances change is irresponsible. Similarly, refusing vaccination while having children and not having some provision for your death is highly irresponsible.
This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. However, none of the HCA nominees and recipients are folks who lack access to vaccines. They are not mocked for comorbidities alone. They are not folks who cannot take the vaccine due to existing health issues. Or people who would get the vaccine if they could only afford the time off work. They are not even quiet antivaxxers. They are loud and proud, anti-vaccine, anti-mask, anti-government, anti-establishment, anti-lockdown, anti-distancing, advocates AND victims.